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Ideal Fault Code

Ideal F4 Fault Code

The F4 fault means the boiler established a flame but the ionisation probe detected it was lost during the heating cycle. Unlike F1 — which is a failure to ignite — F4 means the boiler lit, then lost its flame mid-operation.

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What is the Ideal F4 fault code?

The Ideal F4 fault is triggered when the ionisation probe signals flame loss during an active heating or hot water cycle. The boiler established a flame successfully (passing the initial ignition check that would have triggered F1), but the probe then detected that the flame went out. This distinction matters diagnostically — F1 points to ignition components, while F4 more often points to combustion stability, gas supply, or a probe that is degrading rather than completely failed.

Affected models
Logic+ Combi 24Logic+ Combi 30Logic+ Combi 35Logic+ HeatLogic Max CombiLogic Max HeatVogue CombiVogue Max
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What causes the F4 fault?

1
Dirty ionisation probe

A partially degraded probe may detect the initial flame but lose signal as combustion conditions change under load. Cleaning may extend its life, but replacement is often the more reliable fix.

2
Intermittent gas supply

Pressure fluctuations in the gas network — particularly during peak demand — can momentarily reduce gas supply below what the burner needs to sustain a flame.

3
Blocked or restricted flue

A partially blocked flue creates backpressure that disrupts combustion air during the heating cycle, extinguishing the flame.

4
Blocked condensate pipe

A blocked condensate trap restricts the flue gas path and can disturb combustion stability, causing intermittent flame loss.

5
PCB fault

A failing PCB can misread ionisation signals and generate false F4 codes even when combustion is stable. Diagnosed by elimination after all other components pass.

6
Burner or heat exchanger issue

On Logic+ boilers in hard water areas, limescale on the heat exchanger can alter flow dynamics and disrupt the flame during the heating cycle.

What you can safely check yourself

1
Test your gas supply

Check that other gas appliances work normally. If the gas hob is also intermittent, the supply is the problem — call your gas supplier.

2
Check the condensate pipe in winter

In cold weather, thaw a frozen condensate pipe with warm water poured over the external section, then attempt a reset.

3
Single reset attempt

Hold the reset button for 3 seconds. If F4 appears on the next heating cycle, call an engineer — do not keep resetting.

Do not reset the boiler more than once if the fault code returns immediately. Repeated resets without diagnosis can mask a worsening fault.

What needs a Gas Safe engineer

  • Clean or replace the ionisation probe
  • Inspect the burner for carbon deposits
  • Measure gas inlet pressure and check for supply fluctuations
  • Inspect the flue terminal for partial blockage
  • Clear any blocked condensate trap
  • Check the PCB ionisation input circuit if all other components test correctly

F4 from ionisation probe deposits is more frequent in London's hard water zones. South London boroughs — Wandsworth, Merton, Lewisham, Southwark, Lambeth, Greenwich, and Bromley — are all affected by Thames Water's calcium-heavy supply. Annual servicing with a probe clean keeps F4 faults rare on Ideal Logic+ and Vogue boilers in these areas.

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How much does a F4 repair cost?

Costs below are UK averages. Reion provides a fixed quote after the £80 diagnostic visit — no obligation to proceed.

Diagnostic visit £80
Ionisation probe replacement £80–£160
Burner clean £80–£120 (included in annual service)
Condensate trap clear/replace £60–£100
PCB replacement (if PCB is cause) £320–£580

How to reset a Ideal boiler showing F4

1

Check that other gas appliances work normally.

2

In winter, check and thaw the condensate pipe if frozen.

3

Hold the reset button for 3 seconds.

4

If F4 appears on the next heating cycle, do not reset again — call a Gas Safe engineer.

5

Note whether F4 appears immediately or only after the boiler has been running for several minutes, and tell the engineer.

Ionisation probe and burner cleaning are among the lower-cost Ideal repairs. PCB replacement is more significant — on an older boiler with other age-related faults, Reion will give an honest repair-vs-replace assessment at the diagnostic visit.

Common questions about the Ideal F4 fault

What is the difference between an Ideal F1 and F4 fault?
F1 is a failure to ignite — the boiler could not establish a flame at all. F4 means the boiler lit successfully but the flame went out during the heating cycle. F1 typically points to ignition components (electrode, lead, gas valve). F4 more often points to combustion stability issues — a dirty probe, gas supply fluctuation, or blocked flue.
Why does my Ideal boiler only show F4 in cold weather?
A frozen condensate pipe is the most likely cause in cold weather. It creates backpressure in the flue gas path that disrupts combustion mid-cycle, causing F4. Thawing the condensate pipe resolves this immediately.
Can an Ideal F4 fault fix itself?
If caused by a brief gas supply interruption, a single reset may clear it permanently. If F4 returns on the next heating cycle, there is an underlying component fault. Recurring F4 without a clear trigger suggests an ionisation probe that needs replacement.
How much does an Ideal F4 repair cost in London?
Diagnostic visit £80. Ionisation probe replacement £80–£160. Burner clean £80–£120. Condensate clear £60–£100. Reion covers Wimbledon, Wandsworth, Merton, Lewisham, Lambeth, Southwark, Greenwich, Bromley, and North Surrey.
Is an Ideal F4 fault dangerous?
The F4 lockout is a safety mechanism. If you smell gas at any point, do not reset — leave the property and call 0800 111 999. An F4 fault without a gas smell is a component fault, not a safety emergency.

Need a Ideal engineer in London?

Reion is Gas Safe registered (919881), based in South London, and available 24/7. Fixed price after the diagnostic visit — no hidden charges.

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